you do know these frame are like indestructable ??

Is the gearing 28-12 ?

took a look at that skavenger frame. I would go with the macneil loden. Unless your ride purely street only. If you ride park and street I think its nice to have the option of brakes and gyro tabs.

how can you say head angle and bb suck when you have never ridden one of these bikes ?? I owned one and it was probably one of the best freeride/downhill bike I have ever ridden even better then the demo 9 I had.

Specs ?

I love the frame !! Macneil makes some really sick frames and parts. I was considering getting the borrato instead, but I decided I rather have the option of running brakes. The frame is super super stiff, great for street and park. I haven't tried it on any dirt yet. Two complaints that I do have is 1.the seat post is 22.2mm which didn't really give me options for choice but they fixed that for 2012 version and 2. is that the matte finish is pretty thin, I am not an expert on how you paint on matte color but my cousin also has this frame and he is a hardcore street/park rider and he has some scratches on the frame. Where those scratches are there seems to be a thin layer of rust coloring. All though it does make the frame look alot cooler I don't know how rust will react on this frame in the future.